January 7th, 2023
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I was in Minneapolis a week ago, and my travels within the city required a lot of ubering. The first Uber I took was from the airport to my airbnb. The driver was pretty quiet during the ride, besides some patches of small talk and the constant drumming of his fingers on the steering wheel. When we talked, I clocked him as a little weird and on edge, but nothing out of the ordinary with drivers I’ve had. For example, when I asked how he was, he said “Good, man. Good good good good, man.” Like I said, I’ve had weirder experiences.
My next uber was 3 hours later, from my Airbnb to the hotel my friend was staying at. When the Uber pulled up out front, I noticed it was the same car and, sure enough, the same driver as before. As I entered the car, I laughed and made a comment about how I had never had the same driver twice in a row before. He didn’t even acknowledge my joke. This ride was more of the same, except he was silent the entire time and he was hunched over and ultra-focused on the road ahead. His drumming had also gotten more intense.
The next couple Ubers I had were different people. But two days later, I got this dude again. He looked wretched. His hunch looked wretched and his head was trembling really badly. Most concerning of all, he was wearing the same shirt and pants as he had two days ago.
I said he seemed to be a very active driver, to which he replied “I don’t stop, man. No, never never never stop. Gotta keep going going going.” His eyes in the rear view mirror looked baggy and lifeless. I nervously laughed and said “except for when you’re asleep or eating, right?” He didn’t seem to understand and responded to nothing else for the entire ride.
I got him one more time on my last day, two days after that ride and he was still wearing the same clothes. At that point, he literally looked like Gollum and sort of spoke like him too. He was playing some weird podcast about the planets and every time the host mentioned earth he turned back to face me (which concerned me greatly) and said “that’s our home turf.”
I seriously believe he had been driving for Uber nonstop since I got to Minneapolis— and maybe he still is. And he was definitely on some sort of upper. Admittedly, the last three times I rode with him I knew in advance that it was him because the app tells you your drivers name, so one could say I did it to myself. However, I was in disbelief and couldn’t help but witness his madness. But there is no way this should be allowed. Pilots can only work a limited number of hours a day for a reason. Why hasn’t Uber implemented a cap?
January 7th, 2023
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😂🤣😂🤣 that ain’t no worker 🐜 that brothers starving
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Others have already told you that drivers cannot drive for more than 12 hours/day without at least a 6 hour rest. Pilots are restricted to 13 hours/day; train drivers to 12 hours/day; truck drivers to 11 hours in a 14 hour window.
Your driver was just weird.
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Honestly even this is unhealthy. Imagine a person driving for 12 hours straight, sleeping in their car for 6 hours and getting up and repeating that process. Gotta be so bad for your health, might as well app swapping back and forth which you can actually do.
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It is certainly bad for your health and would be practically impossible.
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Uber is 12 hours a day, MOVING, while online in the app.
What these people do is 12h on uber, 12h on lyft, 12h on uber.
I'm sure you see where the problem is now.
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Mine is 16
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He could be alternating apps, uber for 12 lyft for 12. And meth 24/7
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Or maybe drivers shouldn’t pull 150 hour shifts for the sake of common sense and personal responsibility?
That goes without saying, and doesn’t undercut my point. Let me guess, you think getting dirt cheap below-cost transportation is more important than your driver being able to put food on the table? Shocker! Here’s a note about personal responsibility: buy or rent a car and drive yourself. 😘
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Pay his bills for him then so he doesn't have to make the difficult choice between homelessness and personal responsibility
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It's 12 hours and must take a break for 6 hours then
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12 on 8 off here in MA
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12/6 in Wisconsin
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There are federal laws regarding TNC drivers. For every twelve hours of active driving we must take six consecutive hours of break time.
However, each service monitors their drivers independently, meaning Lyft has no idea how many hours you’ve driven for Uber today. So if you hit your 12 hours on Uber and want to work another 12 on Lyft, there’s nothing stopping you. And then of course, by then your time on Uber will have reset, so once you’re done with your 12 on Lyft, it’s back to Uber.
Personally, as a rider, I’ve only ever had one driver admit to taking this to an extreme. She admitted to 27 consecutive hours of driving. There was definitely a look in her eyes ngl.
As a driver, I never work over my 12. I’ve thought about it, but then I told myself laws like this exist for a reason. That reason is the safety of others, and of myself. No amount of money is worth being underground.
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Uber does have a 12 hours of drive time limit. Once this limit is reached, the app automatically goes offline and won't let the driver back online for 6 hours.
There is some flexibility to this. Any time online but parked. Doesn't count towards the 12 hour limit. Also if the driver still has a few minutes left and then accepts a long trip. They can complete that trip, but then will get kicked offline.
More than likely this guy lives in his car and works the max hours he can.
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Time online but parked doesn't count? Umm. That's not correct. I get kicked offline for 8 hours when I'm at home and have forgotten to sign off after a long day.
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That's more likely to be cuz you declined (by time out) 3 trips in a row.
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Logging me off, yes. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying, for instance, I worked 11 hours, came home, and forgot to turn off my app. It's not busy where I live (I comment into the city to work) and in the early AM hours, an hour could easily go by without getting 3 timed out requests. Sometimes this has happened, and it caused me to reach my 12 hour limit, preventing me from going online for 8 hours. So, the hour I spent in bed, the clock was ticking and eventually ran out.
The app doesn't say to itself "oh, well, he's not moving, let's not count this time against him" lol
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I don't go past the 12 hours very often. When I have, my ending time is always more than 12 hours. For example, I go online at 10am, during the day I'm parked in between trips for an hour total. I'm still able to drive until 11pm. It even shows online time and drive time separately in the app.
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Are you talking about Uber or Uber Eats? Where are you located? I'm guessing you're in a state or market that has very specific/different conditions like CA, if we're talking about rideshare, and not delivery.
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Strictly UberX in North Carolina. So no where near CA.
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The app doesn't say to itself "oh, well, he's not moving, let's not count this time against him" lol
Yes it does. Uber only counts moving, online time against the counter -- unless your state says otherwise.
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I guess it's just a Massachusetts thing then 🤷♂️
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here you can only work 12 hours then it makes you take 10 hours off.
Then again you can work Lyft another 12 hours.
Crash and you will be held accountable though. LOL
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He probably multi apps like me, there’s no limit but I don’t drive that long because there’s not that many profitable rides in the day. I feel bad for him though, same clothes honestly might mean he’s homeless and maybe he’s driving nonstop to save for a deposit or such? I’m seeing more and more homeless drivers now.
CoL went up and pay went way down
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