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A few years ago, my brother brought a suit against a big corporation whose product, without saying too much, left him less of a man. After a lengthy pre trial process with “stays” and “continuations” (I don’t fully know what I’m talking about), it seems like the trial will finally be happening towards the end of the year.
On Friday, my brother was deposed by the corporation’s lawyer. It was a virtual deposition via Zoom, and we live in a studio that doesn’t have any walls, so I had no choice but to listen in.
I’ll just get to the point here. The court reporter was a smoke show, exactly my type. Redhead with the voice of angels and demons. She looked to be about my age too, and, well, I kinda fell in love instantly.
At the end of the deposition, she was asking the attorney for one of the exhibits he used which was unable to be shared with her due to a technical glitch. To remedy this, she gave him her email, which I… sigh… wrote down. Being single for 5 years makes a man do such things.
This weekend I got really drunk and wrote her an email basically introducing myself as the brother of her recent deponent. She got back to me today and basically said “okay, what can I do for you.” And Reddit, I was talked into sending “Hopefully let me buy you a cup of coffee. Cheers, LuciusDickusMaximus”
She sent back a rejection that was so professionally cutting it still stings, but more than that, it fills me with worry. I don’t know what the fuck I was thinking. Could this affect my brother’s case? She’s technically not involved with the suit, right? So it should be fine?
Jesus what the fuck is wrong with me.
July 17th, 2023
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Wasn't this an episode of Single Female Lawyer?
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Single - Female - Lawyer
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Fighting for her client!
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Wearing sexy mini skirts
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And being self-reliant!
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in a loooooong ......Jacket
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I understood that reference!
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The plaintiff's brother is beyond gross. They have zero comprehension of boundaries, let alone how to respect them.
Is it any wonder why he's single f̶o̶r̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶l̶o̶n̶g̶?
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Well, ya know…. Being single for 5 years makes a man do something like that…. And he kinda fell in love with that smoke show who was just his type. I can’t imagine why he’s been single for 5 years. /s
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His reasoning reminded me of Pat Robertson telling a woman who'd been cheated on something along the lines of "well, he's a man, he's gonna cheat" (Rest In Piss you wrinkled old conflict diamond-mining sack of shit, by the by)
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Fell in love without having ever met her?
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Hang On! You mean to tell me you got engaged to someone you just met that day!?
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A man who does something like that, singe for 5 years? Wonder why?
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Probably trying to make up for his brother's lack of virility and doing a vile job of it. The firm should give max dick the same meds and hope they work again.
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Someone doesn't believe in true love.
Don't give up OP, It will work out.. probably. Right?
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Are you a sadist? Why are you being so mean? He's obviously embarrassed and contrite. Geez.
He's embarrassed it didn't work and concerned it may jeopardize the case, which is greater than the shame he experiences from posting it on reddit.
Contrite? Yeah if you call "post-nut clarity" contrition. He thinks it's gross until next time. If there were contrition, there wouldn't be any excuses (single, his type, description, etc. Would have maybe bought it if she weren't depicted as conventionally attractive but even then).
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No, he needs to be bullied into being normal, this is the only way to fix him.
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He sent an email…
To a random woman. Who was working when he encountered her. While snooping on his brothers legal proceedings. Who did not know him. Whose contact info he was not given with consent.
About every step of that process was stomping on basic boundaries and stalkerish behavior.
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You forgot he wrote the email while he was drunk. I’m guessing that would probably be an amazing read.
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We have a winner for the "What's wrong with this picture?" explanation.
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He eavesdropped on a legal proceeding, copied down a person’s email without their consent or knowledge, got hammered, and emailed a woman he had never actually met asking for a date, without knowing if it would impact his brother’s case. Man’s ego needs the same treatment as whatever happened to his brother’s penis
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Sounds like the plot of one of those hallmark romantic movies you see around Christmas time
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...to an address he was never given.
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Given the behaviour of his brother we find that any members of this family being made "less of a man" are in fact to the benefit of all human kind.
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This would happen in an Ace Attorney case
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This would happen in an Ace Attorney case
Sadly, OP is more likely to be in an Ass Attorney case.
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If OP were ace none of this would have ever happened.
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My favorite reporter would almost assuredly approve of this idea.
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The “send me to an island” depositions are the ones I have the most fun with. I keep asking the question until it is actually answered and reporters love it.
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Haha I’m not attached to a script in depo. But if it’s a question that I know I want to ask in trial, I have a code word in case I do need to have it read back. So reporter just needs to search the last time I said that session’s code word :)
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Oh for sure. I’m not brazen enough to think I invented my tactics lol
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I used to type recorded depos after the fact. You aren't kidding. I worked third at an answering service and one of the attorneys would send them to us to be typed up overnight. He was a criminal attorney and one night I was typing up a depo by a witness to a rape and I had to stop. I couldn't listen anymore. Next morning my boss is chewing my butt because it isn't done, I tossed the cassette and diskette to her (telling my age) and said "You type it up at 4:00 am sitting in here by yourself and let's see if you finish it."
According to another woman who worked there, the boss took it to her office to finish up the file, and came back out, her face was white, she gave it to the guy she used as a salesman and courier, and told him to tell the attorney no more rape cases. He can send those out to a secretarial service.
I also worked for Rev for a while (seriously awful company) and would sometimes type police bodycam transcripts. More ugh. Court reporters have my mad respect.
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the person taking deposition in my case where i was a pro se litigant actually gave me a lawyers name and told me to call them, while the defendants were on break...
she knew i needed help more than i did.. bless her.. case was dismissed with prejudice
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My favorite reporter was completely unflappable.
Once in a deposition a plaintiff was listing all of the jewelry given to her by her ex husband that she had lost in a fire we were sure was arson. it had already been established that ex husband had done federal time for racketeering that included attempted murder. After the break the door flies open and it is drunken ex husband with a gun demanding to know why we were asking her about all that jewelry, I ask him about it and he tells us that she still had it, it was not lost in the fire, and admits that it had all been stolen in the first place. The police show up and take ex away in handcuffs. I look at CR and her hands are still flying on her machine. I asked her if she really got all of that and her response was, “No one said off the record.”
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My husband is a legal videographer and trial tech. Holy crap the stuff he’s heard. Unfortunately, I haven’t. The man keeps his clients secrets.
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I never thought about it, but it seems like the sort of job that a lot of men would fetishize, like librarian, secretary from the steno pool days.
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I am now.
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I put myself through college summarizing depositions for lawyers who didn't want to read them. There were always two kinds:
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I make corporate depos fun lol
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I would DEVOUR that book.
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Would buy book.
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Only way to atone for his deed.
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The plaintiffs brother is guilty. Off with his head 😂
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For the love of god and to ease my curiosity, please do this!
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What you did was inappropriate, but it won’t affect your brother. The court reporter will never date you, even if she might have been interested if she came across you in another setting.
You crossed a boundary. She was working and you took info that was provided under those circumstances, and made it personal.
Apologize for overstepping and never do that again.
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Apology might be wise but keep it wise no wiseguy nonsense
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I am horrified at the idea of giving out my email at a depo and having some rando that I didn't even know was in the room use it to hit on me. Maybe this is why OP has been single for so long.
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It's creepy and shitty but "horrified"? It's your email which has probably been put on a huge amount of lists that are accessible by the worst people and resulted you getting crap loads of spam.
If this horrifies you I wouldn't want you finding out how many criminals(in the scam arena) probably have your number and basic personal information.
No, actually I do not get a bunch of spam to my work email because I only give it out to people who need it. I'm pretty well-versed about criminals online, my partner has been in InfoSec for two decades and I've heard it all. The thing is, criminals wanting to steal your money are never as horrifying as creeps who want to steal you. Someone stalking you for sexual reasons is far scarier than someone wanting to empty your bank account. It's pretty much always horrifying. Let me guess, you're a man, right?
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No, it's fucking horrifying. Even if it's my personal email. Stop trying to downplay how scary these situations can be. Otherwise, post your email in a public forum and see how awful some of these dudes act.
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Lol "fucking horrifying"? No sorry I don't have a victim complex. You sound like the type of person to take any approach from a male as sexual harrassment and any accurate criticism and judgement as "abuse" and never stopped your whole life.
I'm good not seeing monsters around every corner and assuming the worst of everyone. I'm also good not walking with "victim" across my forehead.
Reponding to Altruisticmistake42's comment incase she deletes it.
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This is the equivalent of someone giving out their number to someone else in public, you overhear and note it down and then text them asking for a date. It’s really weird. OP shouldn’t be making excuses to downplay why they did something such as this.
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Unfortunately, HE doesn't seem to know what's wrong with him. Not only that, I doubt that he'll ever learn.
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"Being single for 5 years makes a man do such things."
Let's rewrite that sentence: "Being a creep makes a creep do such things."
And then men wonder why women don't want anything to do with them.
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The worst case... if they utilize this court reporter again they will be adamant that you not be present.
If it was the Defense that was taking the deposition then they would have hired her.
I was a paralegal for both civil and criminal matters. As such.... CR are hired from 3rd party agencies who's only task is to take a verbatim recording of the court procedure... in this case the depo.
It won't affect the case but you'll look like an idiot and I'm sure she'll tell others. Lol.
As I said. The worst case may be that she advises the Defense counsel that you wrote and email and basically asked her out.
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Seriously, what is wrong with you. Not only creepy and inappropriate, but you didn’t even bother to wait for the court case to conclude or check if your actions could compromise your brothers case.
Selfish. Also immature to blame it on “being single for 5 years”. It has nothing to do with being single or for how long, and everything to do with who you are and the choices you make.
Be better.
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Many things are wrong with you, but your inability to take accountability for your gross actions and blaming it on being single is one of them. Honestly you don't even sound like you understand how disgusting your behaviour was, your whole post screams of "please tell me I did not do a very bad" .
If you want to stop being single how about you start respecting women, treating them like human beings, and not harassing them at work? That's the bare minimum and you don't even meet that right now.
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It almost certainly won’t affect your brother’s case, but it was monumentally stupid. The small outside impact I could see it having is it could raise the question of whether your brother perjured himself. Usually when they give the admonitions, they ask if anyone else is in the room with you, and insist you be alone. The concern is someone could be feeding you answers somehow. Like imagine you standing behind your brother’s computer with your own computer holding up flash cards only you can see.
If your brother testified under oath that he was in the room alone, and you were sitting on the couch listening the whole time, the he perjured himself, and that was stupid on his part. But usually when they ask if you’re alone, it’s before the oath, and it’s unlikely it would be picked up on.
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Charlie Harper would have scored.
You are just a puppy trying to run with the big dogs.
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Hi! Court reporter here, I promise she most likely does not/will not care unless you continue to message or harass her. Most of us work freelance and take depots and trials from private law firms or state/county court rooms. Usually a trial by trial basis and usually with our own personally determined pay grade And all we do is transcribe, I promise we do not have the time or energy to add our input into the case other than to read back something that we recorded and is relevant. If anything she’s probably giggling with her gfs about “this guy from a trial I’m working on hit on Me”
TLDR From another court reporter, I’m 99.99% sure that you are totally fine
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"Voice of angels and demons" has me worried. That statement is so overly melodramatic. It doesn't make the situation any less inappropriate. I've known people in my life that talk about crushes this way, and it's accompanied by some unhealthy focus. I'm curious who talked you into messaging her as well. You should not be taking advice from that person, there are several thing wrong with the logic that rationalizes these kinds of actions.
You have basically invaded her privacy by taking advantage of an opportunity at her place of work to note personal information. The email that was provided in court was most likely a work related email, so there is likely a permanent record in some legal offices capacity. Most women do not appreciate their contact information randomly being obtained by strangers, and it doesn't start a conversation from a position of honesty and trust. Chances are if you were really drunk that email was not composed as well as you think, this was never going to be a path to what you wanted.
I'd be guessing there are other events that happen when you're drinking that lead to regret or remorse for your actions. If there are, I would encourage you to take some time to reflect on your relationship with alcohol.
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Every computer and cell phone should have a built-in breathalyzer. If you attempt to send an email or text after 11:00 PM you should have to blow into the breathalyzer and if you are intoxicated, the email/text will not be sent until you've had a chance to review it while sober.
This million $$ idea is my gift to the human race. Big Tech, feel free to steal it.
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If this is teal, you're a pretty big idiot. Hopefully, everyone ELSE can remain professional and hold your dumbassery against your brother.
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Lucius Dickus Maximum
Was this an attempt to succeed?
The Singledom is calling you back. You're not ready to leave.
As penance, please read up on women's rights.
Also, please do not post this woman's email. It's private and it also identifies you. No need to be a moron twice.
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Thinking with the little head, you fuckmuppet.
And LuciusDickusMaximus?? To a court reporter?
Do you even realize the trouble you could get yourself in??? JFC grow the fuck up.
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1- I’m glad you realize how ridiculous you were. 2- the court reporter is most likely employed by a third party company so that neither lawyer is likely to find out or care. 3- the transcript is unlikely to be impacted by your shenanigans.
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I'm in the legal field, and I PROMISE YOU this is going to get around the local legal community.
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I’m sure other court reporters know about it and are laughing. I doubt the specific lawyers know or care.
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Concur, taken and attended a collective probably 40 depositions at this point and only once have I spoken with the reporter in a non-professional context, and that was because she locked her stenotype opposing counsel's building and needed it the next morning so we spoke for about 30 minutes while security rustled up the key since it was after hours. I'm sure there are exceptions, but the "local legal community" in any jurisdiction I've been in doesn't include lawyers swapping stories with court reporters that work for third party companies and they'll likely only interact with once in their entire career.
Not to imply I don't think they're nice and/or intelligent people, but we're all there to do a job and leave. I've been in some pretty fucking WILD depositions and the only people telling stories about it are lawyers to other lawyers. I'm sure court reporters tell stories to other court reporters, but (un)fortunately, this is pretty low-grade on the wacky depo behavior scale.
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I doubt other lawyers care. But I bet they've heard and are laughing.
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Oh, yes. ABSOLUTELY.
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Happy Cake Day 🍰
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Happy cake day! This is my opinion as well. I was laughing too hard to give a legal response.
Some courts I’m in it’s always the same court reporter who are assigned to that judge, some they rotate through an agency. This shouldn’t effect the outcome of the case. But it was an incredibly foolish move.
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She sent back a rejection that was so professionally cutting it still stings
Translation: you're not the first person to send her an email.
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I know you'll think I'm like the others before
Who creeped your e-mail from the Zoom call
RED-head I've got your e-mail
I need to make you mine
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I got it (I got it)
I got your email cause no walls
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Beautiful
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It's basically a form letter she sends out at this point.
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She has it all typed out and ready to send.
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Court reporter here. Admittedly male and do not have to put up with certain things my colleagues have happen to them.
While no one can predict the future perfectly, the chance of it impacting anything is basically nothing.
I suppose the best rule is if you wouldn’t do it at your work don’t do it to somebody at theirs.
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Pretty good chance this guy would do this at his workplace
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Possibly. It depends on whether he is genuinely contrite or simply wanted to ask the internet whether him/his brother would face consequences.
I believe this is a key divider in modern society. Many of us play by a moral code that is not written into law but real to us just the same. Many of us have no concern for anything that does not bring us consequences. If OP is the former, he was ignorant and has learned. If OP is the latter, he has learned that there are no consequences for his behavior. Only his future actions will tell which it is, but I won’t be there for that part of the journey.
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Chris Bump
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No, no, no, no, Chris Day.
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Your pride is hereby held in contempt. And your ego has been sanctioned into oblivion, lol.
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It may affect that court reporter's ability to feel safe doing her job knowing someone was actively listening to her for her info for non-court related contact. OP's pride is not the only or biggest potential casualty.
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And men wonder why women complain that they just don't feel safe anywhere. Cause dudes do shit like this.
Lady was just doing her job and this bro crossed all the boundaries.
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Just glossed past the part about OP being a straight, certified fucking creeper?
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“Being single for 5 years makes a man do such things” the fuck it does.
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"Being single for 5 years..."
And his behavior explains why.
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I often find that anyone who has a preconceived notion of what a man does, usually doesn’t know what a man is…
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He admitted To that already, so I accepted that as a confession.
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I would also hope this awakens a sense of self-reflection as to just how creepy his behavior is and maybe even develop some social awareness
...but I seriously doubt it.
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This is the dumbest thing I’ve heard in awhile. Let me go through the facts.
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Maybe he's Charlie Sheen? Because this is a plot right out of Two and a Half Men.
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Men write the creepy stupid shit they do into sitcoms and other men use those sitcoms like a training manual, and thus the shitty cycle continues.
I'm done with this society, let's burn it down and start over.
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You mean hitting on people that you meet while they're working isn't good? I shouldn't be asking out my waitresses?
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he didn’t even meet her, his brother did. he just stole her email. which is way scarier for her because she has no idea what he looks like.
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Maybe he needs some of his brothers penis medication, then the ladies will be all over him.
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He's got it backwards. He's been single for 5 years cause he does such things.
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“A beautiful woman exists. I think that must mean I am entitled to her attention. After all, how many men are capable of noticing that a beautiful woman is existing?”
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Yes. I’m sure it would be cathartic for mr LDMaximus to post the letter.
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LDMinimus now.
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No that’s his brother.
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VomitisDickusMinimus. (Court reporter response.)
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"...my brother brought a suit against a big corporation whose product...left him less of a man..."
"...The court reporter was a smoke show, exactly my type..."
CHARLIE HARPER LIVES!
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If ever there was a plot for the show 2 1/2 men, it would be Alan in court because Jakes mom wants more child support and Charlie tries to hit on the stenographer.
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Well, there was the episode where Charlie has a thing with Alan's lawyer (Heather Locklear), then breaks it off right before the final hearing...
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This whole family seems to make bad decisions with its penises.
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My guy you gotta learn to masturbate BEFORE you do stuff like this.
Also please get therapy, even being single 5 years that is not normal.
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I've been single for longer...how is that not normal?
Being single that long is fine, I was referring to the behavior.
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If you think "doing stuff like that" is "normal" maybe that explains being single longer than 5 years. Maybe try a new approach, because this one is definitely creepy.
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It's weird illiteracy two stages down now.
apathetic drunk misread that the abnormal part is "being single 5 years". That's fine, and not an excuse to be creepy as hell.
You misread that apathetic drunk thought "doing stuff like that" was the normal part instead of the "being single 5 years". That stuff is creepy, and not something to blame being single for 5 years on.
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even being single 5 years that is not normal.
how is that not normal?
(I think that u/apathetic-drunk may have misread what they responded to as "Being single 5 years is not normal". But that's not what u/madsmadhatter said.)
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You are an idiot wow, just wow. I looked at your posting history...says you are a rising senior in high school in one post.
But another says you work for an import/export company...https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/14yzztj/aitah_for_refusing_to_clean_the_company_microwave/
Very sus!
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As others say its unlikely that your brother would get in trouble. Having a dumass for a brother isn't exactly a crime. But dude, that is so creepy.
Maybe send her an e-mail thanking her professional reply and tell her you now realize that you massively overstepped your boundaries and that will never happen again.
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No. For the love of God let it end. Any further correspondence will only make it so much worse for OP. On second thought, go ahead and send that follow up!! Please keep up posted 👍
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If he contacted me again, I’d consider calling the police. Or having my brother “talk” to him with my brother’s fists.
Let it drop, OP. Please.
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Or having my brother “talk” to him with my brother’s fists.
Don't get your brother involved in things that could get him shot. That's not very sisterly of you.
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