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3 years ago

Is it a good time to invest in a Tim Horton’s franchise

I’m a US citizen and my buddy from the great white north just asked me if I would be able to send him an EFT of a couple grand to help him achieve his dream of owning a Tim Hortons franchise. Not sure if this is a wise investment. Don’t really know the Canadian landscape but my impression was that TH was on the way out; friend insists otherwise. What’s the truth?

August 6th, 2023

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PettyTrashPanda

3 years ago

Dude I think your friend is scamming you. The rules around purchasing a million dollar franchise are extremely strict and from memory, having investors to fund that franchise purchase is a no go, as owners have to work in store, etc. At least it used to be that way.

I would back away at this point.

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Glad_Screen_4063

3 years ago

tims is shit. diabetes factory. don't contribute to that nonsense.

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Signal-Lie-6785

3 years ago

If your friend’s ask is for “a couple grand” then you’re looking at a 1-2% equity stake?

If you want to invest in Tim Hortons then consider buying QSR stock. The money your friend is requesting sounds more like a handout/gift and I wouldn’t consider this a wide investment with any prospect of return.

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Acceptable_Answer570

3 years ago

Good luck finding staff when the whole business Model is built on cheap-labor.

24h 7/7 is a thing of the past.

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N0x1mus

3 years ago

New scam detected or shit people post that didn’t happen. More at 4.

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blindhollander

3 years ago

Stay away from that friend

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angelus97

3 years ago

It probably costs at least half a mil to open a Tim’s franchise but he needs a couple grand from you, huh?

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wolfofnumbnuts

3 years ago

It was a half a mil like 15 years ago I remember when they were first coming around and I had some family members looking into it.

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rovin-traveller

3 years ago

it was 400K in 2006, then shot up to a mil.

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samesunng

3 years ago

State of Tim Hortons aside, why would you give your friend thousands to buy a franchise? Sounds like a nightmare situation.

Speaking on Tim Hortons, if you can get a location that’s busy (I’m thinking more suburban or rural where there’s less competition) it might be a busy spot, but then you might run into staffing issues cause who wants to drive in and work for minimum wage. Quality of the food and coffee is also dropping.

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3 years ago

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Levincent

3 years ago

Really depends on the location and type of population around it.

Tim's ight in front of my office was always packed pre-covid. Mostly office workers and commuters. Now it's always empty with very few employees who cant get anything done. Guessing its gonna close.

The one close to my home is always packed with older people reading and has walk ins grabbing a coffee.

Declining quality is brutal. Food got real bad after the 2014 Brazilian purchase and I was thinking it couldn't get worse...2022-2023 proved me wrong.

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VancouverSky

3 years ago

Tim's is the embodiment of the "location, location, location" saying.

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Jesouhaite777

3 years ago

Noooooooooooooooooo

Where is he gonna get the other 2 million from ?

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[deleted]

3 years ago

A couple grand isn't going to do much, franchises are well north of a million. Do some research - there is also a lot of strife between franchisees and corporate.

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DZello

3 years ago

Tim Horton’s are already everywhere in Canada and are having problems recruiting. Inflation is still high and people are eating out less often. I doubt it would be a good investment at the moment.

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Seniorsoggybum

3 years ago

Lool you're getting scammed dude

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TartineMyAxe

3 years ago

Don't

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sambashare

3 years ago

Don't even bother responding. This is a bullshit burner account he's using

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duncandisorder

3 years ago

I would not touch this with a 10 foot pole unless your buddy has his ducks in a row. And a couple grand is a drop in the bucket for how much these franchises cost.

Does he have a business plan? Does he have any experience in running a restaurant or even working in a restaurant (at the bare minimum)? Can he tell you what his average annual equipment repair costs will be? And these questions are scratching the surface.

I would not call this an investment for the amount of money involved here. If you want to gift your money or give him a loan, go for it, but please go in with the comprehension that you might never see the money again.

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Toincossross

3 years ago

Like others have said, if your friend needs a couple grand from you, he can’t afford a franchise. It does honestly sound like someone is either running a scam on him where he “thinks” he is going to get a franchise, or someone has hacked his accounts and is trying to scam his friends.

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Limp-Muffin8805

3 years ago

Fuck no lmao tims is ass

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dustnbonez

3 years ago

Tim Hortons sucks

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Allieatisbeaver

3 years ago

Tim hortons is hot garbage, last food and bev brand I’d invest in.

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SimbPhinx

3 years ago

The very first requirement of having a Tim’s franchise is to at least have a net worth of 1.5 mil, does your buddy have that?

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SUPRVLLAN

3 years ago

Scam. It costs hundreds of thousands to franchise, if he’s legit there’s no way he couldn’t come up with the last couple by himself.

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[deleted]

3 years ago

Timmy is trash except their new oat milk ice Capp

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Jeanne-d

3 years ago

If you look at the demographics in the lines of the restaurants, there are a lot of immigrants so this is a good sign as Canada is a country of immigrants. This company has a strong moot around its business. Like Canadian McDonalds.

Fairly safe company but there is always risk in any venture.

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w0ke_brrr_4444

3 years ago

tim hortons is trash.

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Boogyin1979

3 years ago

As others have said: it depends on the location.

My neighbour and her husband own a bajillion TH’s and as she has always told me “Tim Horton’s ownership was never about selling coffee: it’s about real estate acquisition”.

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WhatIsThePointOfBlue

3 years ago

Tim hortons cost a lot to open (MUCH more than a couple grand lol) and most certainly have gone downhill in the last while... I almost never go there as they get my order wrong (significantly) more often than anywhere else.

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Godkun007

3 years ago

Do you have a contract? Do not send anyone any money for an investment without a clearly defined contract.

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Mental-Freedom3929

3 years ago

Aside that I not want the headache of keeping a Tim Hortons staffed and running and it is open 24/7 I see you have great advice about the cost of one of those. A couple of ??? I would end this friendship fast. This is a scam attempt.

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Abject-Target5215

3 years ago

To be completely honest, it's not a good time to invest in any Canadian business unless it makes money off of immigration.

Open a scam college-Yes

Immigration consultant-Yes

Immigration Lawyer-Yes

Room rental negotiation specialist-Yes

Tims-No, unless he only hires international students, pays them cash, and has them live 15 to a house in Brampton. If this is the case ask him for a portion of the entire business, not just the tim hortons.

Top_Nobody5124

3 years ago

Scam.

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Ok_Speech_3709

3 years ago

Products, quality, service and brand have gone down hill since Brazilian corporate acquisition. I wouldn’t touch it.

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Tangerine2016

3 years ago

Will add another "sounds like a scam" message. OP, don't dismiss what people are saying. This is the kind of think where the person gives money and then in retrospect they notice all of the redflags that they missed!

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