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August 3rd, 2024

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/r/whatif

2 years ago

What if Darmstadtium was never discovered? Or Seaborgium? Or protactium? 😱😱😱

If you can’t tell, I’m being facetious. Someone tell me how your life would be materially different if half of these random elements on the periodic table were never ā€œdiscovered.ā€ I’m at the bar with my buddies and we are looking through the table right now and I actually dying laughing at the names of some of these. Molybdenum? Dude. Get fucking real.

My wife does this thing every year where she goes thru our our drawers while I’m blindfolded and puts an ice cube in my mouth and I try to list everything I can remember that are inside before the ice cube melts. Anything I don’t list, she throws out. I think we should do the same with the elements. Anything 8/10 Americans can’t name, we take off the table. Tell me anything would be different in any way for any person living on this earth.

August 3rd, 2024

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jephraim_tallow

2 years ago

don't be so proud of your ignorance. molybdenum is an essential trace mineral and is used in alloys and electronics. 8/10 americans know almost nothing about engineering, chemistry and electronics, it would be extremely foolish to rely on what they know! As for the heavy elements, it is a necessary part of scientific research to better understand how atomic nuclei work and improve our general understanding of the universe

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Turbulent-Name-8349

2 years ago

I once went to the trouble of plotting the number of known isotopes by time. It was a brilliant piece of detective work, if I may say so ;-)

Beyond the natural stable elements, the first discovered were all the isotopes from the natural decay chains. Next, those created by neutron radiation of natural elements. After that, time of flight mass spectroscopy isolated the hundred or so stable isotopes that nobody had realised were there.

Elements like Fermium and Einsteinium first turned up among the fission products of a-bombs and h-bombs.

Only then was there any converted effort to manufacture new isotopes and elements in cyclotrons and synchrotrons, by bombarding heavy elements with precisely tuned calcium ions and heavier ions.

There have been a couple of new advances in the discovery of new elements and isotopes since then. But even now we're stuck with the problem of there being no easy way to feed a heavy isotope enough neutrons.

Tell me anything would be different in any way for any person living on this earth.

The funding for this work has been abysmal, it's not like it's taking money away from anything vital.

There is always hope that it will become useful in future, General Relativity languished for almost a hundred years before a practical application was found in GPS.

A lot of isotopes have been of practical use to the average human. Americium in smoke detectors being the obvious one. I was recently injected with the synthetic isotope 18F as part of a PET scan to test for a brain tumour and for Alzheimer's disease.

For me, without such discoveries I wouldn't have been able to plot the progress of discovery in this fascinating branch of physics.

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[deleted]

2 years ago

The new elements themselves might not be of much or any real-world importance, but their existence corrects and affirms current understanding of physics. If you can predict say the stability of a new element, and the experiments match theoretical values then that is a big scientific achievement.

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LuciusDickusMaximus

2 years ago

Ok. Who benefits besides the ego of some nerd?

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[deleted]

2 years ago

The wallet of said nerd probably

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LuciusDickusMaximus

2 years ago

TouchƩ

EDIT: actually not touche.

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