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/r/LateStageCapitalism

1 year ago

US Private Healthcare is a sham and meant to confuse us into submission

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April 10th, 2025

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[deleted]

1 year ago

Why do you have to take 5 different kids to 5 different doctors?

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smittenwithshittin

1 year ago

This is ragebait. OP has been a teen, adult, man, woman, works in accounting, works as a billionaire’s bodyguard, while also working at Panera.

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TinFoilBeanieTech

1 year ago

Yeah, this isn't even plausible. There is so much BS here, and posting fake shit like this undermines credibility on a very serious problem.

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initramakdov

1 year ago

And why are they all just now getting their MMR vaccines?

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LuciusDickusMaximus

1 year ago

It is the law in the United States

[deleted]

1 year ago

Lol I'm a doctor in America, this is not the law. My pediatrician friends typically manage entire families.

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AbsoluteAtBase

1 year ago

Seconding this. We have an entire specialty called Family Medicine which explicitly treats all members of the same family if the family wants it.

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cheezuscrust777999

1 year ago

This person isn’t really a parent looking at their post history

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eveban

1 year ago

What? I have 3 kids, and we've all used the same PCP their whole lives. We live in a rural area, and the family doc handled adults and kids as long as there were no unusual circumstances. In fact, when they were small, the clinic booked all the annual checkups for me and my kids back to back so I could get in and out. They saw my parents as well.

I'm not sure who told you this our what their reasoning is, but it's not a law. Possibly some sort of internal policy, but even that would be hard to justify, especially in more rural areas. Also, most vaccines can be updated at the local health department, and the costs are usually considerably less.

I agree that the billing system is a joke, but i think you may need to ask more questions than just about the bill.

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[deleted]

1 year ago

No , what are you talking about. What would happen if you try to have them seen by the same pcp. This is like my friend that constantly FLIES to another state to get his meds in another state because he refuses to figure out how transfers work

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mybooksareunread

1 year ago

I schedule my 2 kids' well checks for the same day and they essentially just do back-to-back time slots but do all the exams at once. One kid gets their vision checked, then the other. Then they bring in the hearing machine (if they're doing that) and test them both, and so on and so forth. Then the doctor comes in once for both kids.

The U.S. healthcare system is a sham and absolutely kills people. But go ahead and schedule all of your kids at once and if they won't do it, find a clinic/hospital that will.

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sxcs86

1 year ago

Usually the reason that the cost differs by provider is because each provider determines their own reimbursement rates for services/medications. The insurance company can only pay the provider the negotiated rates for the services, which unfortunately results in different out of pocket expenses.

Are you able to find a family medicine provider in-network that can see all of your kids? Maybe the one that currently provides the lowest rates?

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Collider_Weasel

1 year ago

You guys pay for essential vaccines??? That’s murderous!

(Lived in three continents and all places had them available for free, wtf is going on with the USA?)

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Ruh_Roh-

1 year ago

Our health care system has one goal, and it's not to keep us healthy, it is a wealth extraction system designed to extract the maximum amount of money possible at every touchpoint in the system. The complexity and randomness is a feature, not a bug. OP has it correct, it is convoluted in order to get the individual to give up and not fight back, just accept whatever bills they get and turn over the majority of their pay to them.

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mybooksareunread

1 year ago

Yep this. I had great insurance with 100% prenatal and childbirth coverage (except a hospital admission copay). In the next months I got so many bills amounting to thousands of dollars. Every time there'd be a portion paid by insurance and it would look like I was genuinely responsible for the rest. But I knew I wasn't.

I'd call the hospital billing department, they'd say to call my insurance provider; I'd call my insurance provider, they'd tell me to contact the hospital's billing department. Repeat ad nauseum. Every single dollar was ultimately paid by insurance.

How many people don't have the wherewithal to understand their coverage, much less the time and energy to make all those phonecalls? The insurance company would've made thousands of dollars off me (in savings) if I would've just given up and paid.

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Collider_Weasel

1 year ago

This is revolting. I hope you guys can get the most urgent public healthcare.

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Ruh_Roh-

1 year ago

We won't. Many billions of dollars are being fleeced off the American people. They will never give that up.

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Jung_Wheats

1 year ago

It's also a mechanism to compel people to work a regular 'job' and to tolerate abuse from employers.

If you're at all concerned about healthcare, you have to get a job.

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zeatherz

1 year ago

I’ve never had co pays for my kids’ routine childhood vaccines. So no, we don’t.

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Collider_Weasel

1 year ago

As it should be.

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Murky_Education1700

1 year ago

You also pay for them (unless you don’t pay tax).

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Collider_Weasel

1 year ago

Americans also pay A LOT of taxes, even if they move abroad (which we don’t). I pay taxes now, but I didn’t pay when I was young and broke, and I pay them happily because every single person in my country has the right to be seen by a doctor, be vaccinated, have an organ transplant or be treated of cancer equally. Even visitors will be rescued by our public healthcare system if they need to be.

I don’t understand this “argument”. I see a lot of Americans using the same sentence - which sounds propagandish - to justify people dying or getting bankrupt because of healthcare. For us, paying taxes for this is a no-brainer, as well as paying for every single compatriot to have access to free education from kindergarten to doctorate. It’s better for everyone.

There wouldn’t be a “Breaking Bad” drama in my country. The guy would go to a hospital, get treatment, and that’s it.

It is shameful.

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Confident-Aerie4427

1 year ago

americans don't pay taxes?

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illHaveWhatHesHaving

1 year ago

Familial conflict of interest?

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[deleted]

1 year ago

We absolutely have to depose the middle parasites.

Government should heavily fund research and provide the fruits to the people via some form of Medicare type plan for all. We bought the research, all should benefit from our investment without a capitalist parasite getting filthy rich from our investment.

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tdowg1

1 year ago

I swear, I thought we did this with insulin? It was made open source/public domain. Yet, somehow the lowlife scumbags at the top manage to suck it up into their rip-off machine.

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tdowg1

1 year ago

WTF, we need to end this.

"but why aren't people having kids anymore?" HERE's ANOTHER REASON.

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creepris

1 year ago

and if you’re not already, it’s a great time to start masking in indoor public spaces again as covid is still raging and a single infection can cause an array of disabilities. it causes immune system damage similar to measles and hiv! and the biden admin let corporations tell us covid is over for the economy.

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SadonaSaturday

1 year ago

It’s absolutely fucked. I have been totally ignoring my poor health for years without insurance, but got it this year for 10% of my post tax income. Now I’ve spent multiple hours over a month going back and forth with a specialist (that I have a referral for) and my insurance, because the specialist required me/insurance to send them 4 separate documents, including several lab results before I could book an appointment. So after 10+ calls, emails, faxes, I got an appointment yesterday for their soonest available: November. It’s April. I am only 30 and worried I’m going to lose the ability to walk, but this is the system and this is how little it cares.

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frenchbread_pizza

1 year ago

I'm so ready for people to understand it's not just insurance companies that are evil. Your job that chooses the shittiest and therefore least costly to them is evil. The health systems are evil. And alot of the providers are horrible too!

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[deleted]

1 year ago

Luigi resonates a lot with this one!!!

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Numerous-Anemone

1 year ago

I love how I pay for dental insurance only for it not to cover me actually going to the dentist but then when I find out I can’t change my plan.

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Niceguy4186

1 year ago

Agreed, I have 4 kids and it's all a scam. Last year we used urgent care for 3 of them for strep, had 3 different bills. Honestly, one of the reasons given was that one of them had a longer wait time, so we got charged more.

I have a kid on growth hormones, billed over 20k a month, (manufacturer picks up blalence)I swear it's a game / con to them. One month it's 8k, then thr next money is 12 k, then it's 1.4k. Funny thing is, even though manufacturer is paying the difference, for some reason, it doesn't count towards our deductible/out of pocket max.

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1 year ago

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ADFormer

1 year ago

Oh oh, here ya go: https://youtu.be/CeDOQpfaUc8?si=r68HjDazAegBI1A2

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Jung_Wheats

1 year ago

I've seen things happening similarly across a lot of industries.

Due to wealth concentration, at the tippy top, all of these companies are owned by the same people so competition, quality products, quality service, etc. etc. just isn't necessary for a lot of these companies.

The CEO's are just there for the next quarter gain, they move around constantly. The people on the boards are, ultimately, all the same.

If you don't wanna buy my Pepsi, I also have 50,000 shares of Coca Cola so FUCK YOU.

With global hyper-capitalism, the power of the corporation has exceeded / co-opted the power of the state in most ways. There's no real competition and no real market to 'correct' anything. Outside the threat of physical force, there is no real constraint on these organizations.

The point of everything, at least in the US, is to extract as much money as possible for as little product / service as possible and to be nebulous enough that you'll give up or die before you reach the end of the nonsense.

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NPVT

1 year ago

Private health insurance is theft.

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Megaskreth

1 year ago

I can't wait for smart contracts to replace all insurance. Insurance should not be for profit.

berylskies

1 year ago

Opposing universal healthcare is morally equivalent to murder.

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ArchitectofExperienc

1 year ago

It ain't hyperbole if its true

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howdybeachboy

1 year ago

$375 differences for an MMR vaccine?

Edit: oh someone below deduced that this is rage bait. Fuck OP

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Krags

1 year ago

Mass murder, at a rate that would put most warmongers and genocidists to shame.

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[deleted]

1 year ago

only if it is a war where only civilians get killed.

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_87-

1 year ago

Generally what happens in genocide

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ocsurf74

1 year ago

Just remember....33 out of 34 developed countries have figured out FREE HEALTHCARE but the US can't. Why?..... let's start with Big Pharma and lobbyists. No other country deal with this bullshit. No one else dies in medical debt but Americans do!

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Daenerys_Stormbitch

1 year ago

Also, while American healthcare is the MOST expensive it is also the LEAST effective in outcomes among developed nations. No wonder they want to sensor our media and news 🤦🏼‍♀️

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dooooom-scrollerz

1 year ago

OP is a bot or very bored and making up stories

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CallRespiratory

1 year ago

Yeah our healthcare system is a nightmare but this scenario of "I have five kids that have to go to five different hospitals because it's the law" is completely fabricated nonsense.

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second_GenX

1 year ago

AND pay for vaccines when the ACA requires they are paid for (at least so far)

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