April 3rd, 2020
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If you pull off a heist, you should not be charged with a crime
To be clear, I mean robbing a fancy item like from an art museum or a Walmart or someone's house. If you manage to heist it without getting caught, you should be granted immunity after say like 76 hours after the heist. If they catch you before then, obviously you did not do a good job so you should be executed.
April 3rd, 2020
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vacri
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brotato_chip73
H-How do you know this?
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gaucho2005
Same reason he has a entire T rex skeleton.
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u/vacri's account was never seen again
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vacri
Nah, you just need to read a little and maybe visit a few museums. They really don't have much in the way of security, and all sorts of art has been stolen in really mundane ways.
I mean, after all, these places live off endowments and ticket sales - the art might be priceless, but their income isn't. They're generally not going to have security measures like 'live floors', laser webs, and teams of submachinegun-armed troopers running guard duty every night...
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IIRC I remember reading about some dude who just literally walked in looked at a vase and then took it, walked out. That's it. I mean he got caught, but it took an art official guy to notice it was missing at all.
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creutz17
The problem isn't stealing art, it's selling the stolen art. Who is gonna spend 20 million on that Van Gogh that's been stolen out of the national museum 3 weeks ago?
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Wismuth_Salix
Rich assholes, just like every other ill-gotten good.
They buy blood diamonds, ffs - you think they’re gonna balk at a purloined Picasso?
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creutz17
"Hello there sir. I know you have a lot of money. Would you be interested in this stolen piece of priceless art for only 10 million moneys?"
If they wanted it, they'd have stolen it themselves
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beddyby12
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DJse7entyse7en
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theUSpopulation
If they catch you before then, obviously you did not do a good job so you should be executed.
Why not expand this to: if you get caught AT ALL, then you did not do a good job? Because technically, what you want is already the case. Even if the police catch you 50 years later, then you did something wrong enough for them to catch you. But if you die and never gain the legacy of a criminal, then you pulled off the heist.
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diccpiccs101
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hamizannaruto
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GulleGozer
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ElegantActive
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ratfoots
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lxkandel06
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schnapps267
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reytr0
So you agree with the general concept of statute of limitations, you just think it should be much, much shorter.
Not sure what gets accomplished here.
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criosovereign
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scubadude2
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The_Fluffy_Walrus
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Upvote cause I disagree with this.
Someone stole the Wizard of Oz ruby slippers in 2005. As a kid, I saw them just days before they were stolen. They were missing for well over a decade but got recovered a few years ago.
Despite all my searching, I didn’t see a single name or conviction. Doesn’t seem like anyone was charged for the theft, which was very successful. So there may be truth to this statement.
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rmaster2005
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AloisBlazit005
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movezig5
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CilantroToothpaste
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HorizontalTwo08
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koreiryuu
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OneScrubbyBoi
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Lowgahn
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ferret_king9
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IncelWolf_
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LordChanticleer
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In-Kii
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anonymous_lurker19
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Zeddeling
I feel like that would be an interesting setting. I could definitely watch a series in a world where this rule goes.
But I have to disagree with putting this rule in reality. I feel like if you get caught even if it was after 76 hours it is not a succesful heist. If they find out enough to be able to identify you, you lose.
I believe it is possible to perform a succesful heist. The sky is the limit and all that.
(Also it would be unethical to create a rule that promotes fancy stealing. The law is the limit.)
P.S. Why 76h? Was there any special reason?
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Inkling4
Reminds me of Danganronpa. If you do a murder and don't get caught, you're free! If not, you die.
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DiamondCake445
Not to mention everyone else gets executed if they don't catch you.
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Danganronpa
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MyogiNightKids
AMAZING
Maybe in your opinion. Honestly there are several issues with the writing that killed my enjoyment of the game. I will agree that the characters are what make the series, the plot honestly sucks but the interesting characters are the only thing that I like about it.
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DiamondCake445
Its a popular visual novel and anime series called danganronpa. The basics is 15 students in highschool are trapped in some building (the first game it was a school, the second it was an island, and so on). The only way to get out of the building is if you murder someone and get away with it. If you get away with it, then you earned the right to leave the building, however every other student dies. If you don't get away with it, you die.
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Mada_KR
It's actually like that in real life. You are only punished if you are caught. Quite crazy.
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Zaraxan
You’ve literally just described the real world. If you heist something good enough, you get away with it.
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[deleted]
but that's only 8 hours
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dozerhouse
76 hours is 3 days
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Lichu12
i think you mean 72 hours
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dozerhouse
Yeah sorry
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cdevon95
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Tommy_Mudkip
Exactly. There is no need for stuff OP said.
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Anon___1991
Pretty sure he meant that if you get caught after, they take the stolen goods back, but you dont get punished for the crime
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Billy_Billboard
Well then the heist was not succesful.
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Anon___1991
Well obviously not, but I think op may have been caught heisting something after 76 hours of the heist, and that's why he's saying this should be a rule. Otherwise he just got some weird 76 hour bullshit going on here.
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Zaraxan
like Skyrim
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Fauxton789
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[deleted]
Because that means there was a security venerability that wasn’t addressed.
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Fauxton789
Sure, but that's like saying you shouldn't prosecute a spy becuase well they showed us that our screening process wasn't airtight enough. I'm all for respecting the skill of other people but making heists the only exception to the rule feels like a weird call.
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Zeddeling
I am pretty sure that analogy rings true for hackers.
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Shorzey
People get paid to do this as security consults both physically, and in the cyber world.
Penetration tests!
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FarragoSanManta
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Depends. The statute of limitations varies wildly by state. Some states have no statute of limitations on crimes involving any forgery or counterfeiting, so if the heist involved any of that (e.g. creating fake jewels to swap out the real ones with, Ocean's 8 style) the statue of limitations wouldn't apply. There are also factors like if and what kind of weapons were used, if anyone was harmed, age of involved parties, etc. Some states don't have a statute of limitations on any felonies at all actually.
In most states yes, a simple "get in, steal shit, get out" heist would be around 5-10 years before the SOL expires but it's really not that black and white, there are many more factors.
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