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/r/The10thDentist

6 years ago

Using crayons to do math homework should be acceptable

One day, back when school was in session, I did my math homework in crayon because i couldn't find a pencil. I was shocked at how good the experience was. Yet, my math teacher refused to accept my homework..wtf.

Math is about speed. Pencils are slow and pens get ink everywhere. Crayons on the other hand, they are smooth and fast.

Also, there's a need for color coding in math, or things get confused. No utensil is better in this regard than a box of crayons.

April 7th, 2020

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Comments:

rule-breakingmoth97

6 years ago

As a math teacher, the only problem I have with this is the inability to erase. That's why I require erasable writing implements in math: so students can erase instead of scribbling out work.

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BrightnessOgden

6 years ago

When I start teaching if they make a mistake in pen I’ll have them simply put an x through it, then you can see if they are consistently making the same mistake and you can help correct it.

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rule-breakingmoth97

6 years ago

That seems like a good strategy. Unfortunately, the ones in my class who would benefit the most from me seeing past mistakes already can't be trusted to erase neatly and struggle with organization. Their work is nearly unreadable already and adding crossed out work, I fear, would make grading impossible.

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BrightnessOgden

6 years ago

I haven’t had a class yet so maybe my opinion on it will change once I start teaching

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O_X_E_Y

6 years ago

But what's the point? Use like three sheets less paper over a year? As long as you're clear on what's your final answer and what's not anymore there's no real issue though right?

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ThePirates123

6 years ago

Its obviously not to save paper dude, it's so that the homework can be clear and easy to read.

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theawesomenachos

6 years ago

I feel it just gets really messy though when you start scribbling out half a page of working. It’s fine if the answers are marked clearly, but often they won’t be. Just because I know where my workings are on a piece of paper doesn’t mean whoever is marking also will, or even myself after a few months tbh.

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TylerTheBox

6 years ago

Have you ever written with a crayon? There’s a reason they’re not used past elementary.

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O_X_E_Y

6 years ago

Of course, I don't prefer them either. But if you can work around their disadvantages I'd say they're still viable

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TylerTheBox

6 years ago

Ig? I mean the op is the 10th dentist, but what actually advantage do they have over any other writing utensil?

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O_X_E_Y

6 years ago

They're nice... I guess? I prefer pen anyway, but this one I'm trying to see from his perspective

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thebigbadben

6 years ago

Not right; the majority of a math assignment is the work that justifies the answer. If a solution has things crossed out in the middle of expressions, then things become hard to read.

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infinitecitationx

6 years ago

how stupid are to not realize how messy a crayon is lol

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[deleted]

6 years ago

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lonelittlejerry

6 years ago

Why would a teacher erase a kid's answers to say they turned in a blank sheet?

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Quajek

6 years ago

Colored pencils?

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JDantesInferno

6 years ago

I never understood why teachers used to tell us pencils were for math. Pens are the superior writing implement, and are great for maths. I agree with you about color coding too.

But Crayons though.... Don’t they get dull after a few lines? How large do you write? I’m upset at this.

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TheNebulaWolf

6 years ago

Pencils can be erased.

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Using pen asserts your dominance, showing people that

YOU DON’T MAKE MISTAKES.

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JohnPershavac

6 years ago

Even if you do make mistakes you can just draw a line (or multiple) across the mistake and assert dominance by not being afraid to show mistakes before YOUR TRIUMPH

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LordHonchkrow

6 years ago

Graphing using a pen is one of the most powerful feelings a person can experience

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MC_Cookies

6 years ago

So can erasable pens, I’d Rex I end Frixion by Pilot, as long as you don’t get your paper into extreme temperatures

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BrightnessOgden

6 years ago

As someone who studied to be a math teacher in college, I will always say they can use a pen. If they make a mistake they can’t erase it so I can see what they did and how to fix it.

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mrnutterbutter123

6 years ago

insert scribble.

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Well someone doesn't make very many mistakes

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Rogdish

6 years ago

This might be an American thing though... Here my teachers wouldn't accept a work written with pencils.

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infinitecitationx

6 years ago

I don't think so lol, your situation is probably just a your nation thing. A pencil is widely accepted in most places.

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Pacdoo

6 years ago

My public school in the US does not allow us to use pencils in math unless we are taking a test using a scantron then you must use a pencil.

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infinitecitationx

6 years ago

I mean there's bound be one exception in tens of thousands of schools.

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Dontgiveaclam

6 years ago

I'm Italian and all writing in pencil wasn't considered part of the test.

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ClarkyBoy4

6 years ago

We use pen aswell past primary school (~11 years old) and only use pencil for constructions

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[deleted]

6 years ago

I’m not American and all my college professors accepted our work in pencil as long as the final answer was in pen.

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DSMB

6 years ago

After about 20 years of education, I use pencil a lot, especially for math. Sure I use pen a lot, as well as a computer, but if I'm going to do proper notes or handwritten work I'll start with pencil. I'll do it in pencil, make sure it's right, pen it in and rub out the pencil.

It still depends on the purpose and value vs effort, so pencil + pen is when I really want it looking good.

The crux of it is that pencil is erasable and allows you to easily fix mistakes.

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lxkandel06

6 years ago

Ok, but is math really about speed? As a math major, I never really thought about how fast I was doing my work. I'd much rather be the guy who makes the least amount of mistakes on a test than the first to hand it in

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FerricDonkey

6 years ago

Math isn't about speed at all. No idea where this came from (except op had a history of saying silly nonsense to try to farm land, apparently). It's much more important to understand the concepts and be able to synthesize them into new ideas and/or apply them to solve problems, depending on what you're dong.

Heck, sometimes even getting the right answer is secondary, as a student. When I was teaching, one of my brightest students got a huge number of answers incorrect on exams - I think he was dyslexic, and quite often some numbers would change places or a sign would flip during his work. But the techniques and explanations were flawless. And in real life, you aren't timed and can check all that stuff at your leisure, using tools you can't use on an exam. Dude got an A easily.

Fast is great, but it's just a bonus.

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monopods

6 years ago

I like this quite a bit! I do prefer colored pencils, tho

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X0n0a

6 years ago

I was actually prepared to agree with you from the title, but then you had to ruin it with that second paragraph. I don't know how you manage to make crayons faster than pens or pencils. In my experience that are either the same speed, or the crayon is slower because it gets welded to the page.

Upvoted.

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IncelWolf_

6 years ago

Your account is obviously a karma farm with insincere posts.

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plznobullymenou

6 years ago

Yours is probably a downvote farm.

RoRl62

6 years ago

I think your reasoning is silly, but I do think a teacher should still give you credit for doing the assignment no matter what you wrote with. Downvoted.

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VoltronBugzilla

6 years ago

Are there purchasable adult crayons? Or did you have kindergarden coloring crayons laying around?

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turboshot49cents

6 years ago

crayons know no biases

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Treblosity

6 years ago

I did this for my discrete math class cause i was curious and crayons were cheap. Its funny and cool but not good practically. the writing is too thick.if you try to write a fraction itll either be illegible or take half a page

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aCleverGroupofAnts

6 years ago

"pencils are slow" what does this even mean? They write as fast as you write....

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RadishAnn

6 years ago

I’ve started using colors for my math homework so that I don’t get confused as to what problem I’m working on. With all our assignments online using a different color per question helps to keep it all organized.

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hintersly

6 years ago

I don’t understand America getting graded on homework at least for math (humanities essays and projects are different but a math sheet?). In Canada for math (at least my teachers) you’re only graded on in class tests and take home packages are completed on completion only

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somethinglemony

6 years ago

I once wrote an electrical engineering midterm in crayon. I actually found that having to write so large and knowing I couldn’t erase made me think more clearly. I’d do it again.

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MalicousMonkey

6 years ago

This is really upsetting

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flower_child411

6 years ago

I agree, especially if it's all you have. Downvoted

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I426Hemi

6 years ago

Your reasoning makes no sense.

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HexOfTheRitual

6 years ago

I mean people use pencils because you can’t erase permanent marks. But I guess if you’re just trying to go for as much “speed” as possible you probably aren’t checking your work.

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Dnguyen2204

6 years ago

Colored pencils?

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natecrch

6 years ago

Why not use colored pencils?

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[deleted]

6 years ago

I'm not sure how you write faster with crayons, to begin with. Also, letters and numbers come out way too big when writing with crayons, in my opinion. If you really want to color-code, why not just use color pencils? They really aren't slow at all.

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[deleted]

6 years ago

I never got why the utensil matters at all. Work is work. If you can read it who gives a shit what it’s written with.

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lillipup03

6 years ago

I mean, I can understand the color coding on graphs, but the rest... definitely not.

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turboshot49cents

6 years ago

the only time math was ever about speed was in 3rd grade when they timed us on how well we could do multiplication tables

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[deleted]

6 years ago

But what if you make a mistake that’s why you don’t use pens

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rainfal

6 years ago

It would be a lot more fun to do math in 99 colors.

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Mechanical pencils are my favorite, superb graphite slip along with thin lines makes for great math-ing.

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mister_mowgli

6 years ago

How old are you?

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MagicFox68

6 years ago

math is about speed

Ummm, no its not

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BandwagonEffect

6 years ago

math is about speed.

That is a golden quote.

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DatBoi9726

6 years ago

How do you write faster with a crayon?!?

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blapsii

6 years ago

Maybe if you are still holding your pencil/crayon downwards in your closed fist...

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BallecBird

6 years ago

Crayons are wax and pencils are graphite

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Graphite is considered a lubricant. Ghrapite is kinda like ink on paper. Crayon be like stuck on there and are way less lubricant in nature

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BallecBird

6 years ago

Makes sense mate

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Mada_KR

6 years ago

Wax can also be used as a lubricant. My only problem is the size of crayons and how they dull almost instantly.

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dgo6

6 years ago

"Math is about speed"? I wholeheartedly disagree. Math is about accuracy, precision and relations between truths. Speed is a usually a bonus but not a requirement. Unless you're a computer scientist, then speed is not as high on the priority ladder. That's my only gripe with your defense for writing with a crayon. If it was legible and accurate, it shouldve been accepted for an assignment, but keep on mind that if you'd be publishing an actual paper, there are standards.

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[deleted]

6 years ago

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plznobullymenou

6 years ago

Maybe even less.

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LuciusDickusMaximus

6 years ago

I'm a Math Major at MIT lmao but try again

bernhardttt

6 years ago

Alright that's impressive but I've taken a crap ton of "math major" courses at my University and not once did they teach us about speed being the most important part. Try again.

Edit: just looked at OP's post history, I don't believe a word you say anymore

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turboshot49cents

6 years ago

check out the MIT math major's understanding of probability

https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/f5w50z/even_though_people_have_a_fifty_percent_chance_of/

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bernhardttt

6 years ago

Lmaooo. I'm worried about OP, honestly. I wonder if they're okay.

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crunchyboio

6 years ago

"now that refrigerators are obsolete"

...what? how? I can't even comprehend this guy

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WEIRDLORD

6 years ago

i think it's a joke account? there's too much silly nonsense for it to be a real person

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NaviersStoked1

6 years ago

It gets better

https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/g4h9mu/imaginary_numbers_exist_only_because/

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FerricDonkey

6 years ago

Based on your lottery post some dude linked, might I suggest asking for a refund?

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[deleted]

6 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/dxf61k/i_think_my_roommate_19m_is_diluting_my_20m_vodka/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/du1s6a/my_boyfriend_18m_got_an_impulse_vasectomy_without/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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ZiggoCiP

6 years ago

Oh for Christ's sake.

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gayuwuowo

6 years ago

Op's gender changed

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Meme-Man-Dan

6 years ago

OP is trans apparently.

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gayuwuowo

6 years ago

He said he gets hard in one of his comments, so he transitioned and then detransitioned

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Meme-Man-Dan

6 years ago

We’re getting into real mind-fucking territory now.

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Ralakhala

6 years ago

This is some r/quityourbullshit material right here

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Garrett73

6 years ago

At university pencil and pen are both considered low standard for homework. Additionally, most math professors dont collect homework. Webassign is the closest any of my math professors have gotten to homework. Physics professors are usually the ones that will assign homework.

Lastly, if you are an MIT student, you should have no problem replying to my comment with the answer to this problem.

Let A be the 2x2 matrix

[1 sqrt(3)]

[sqrt(2) 7]

Let B be the 2x2 matrix

[11 13]

[17 19]

Calculate AB.

(Hint: it's obvious you aren't a math major since you said math is about speed.)

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Meme-Man-Dan

6 years ago

If you’ve ever taken college algebra, then you’d know that there’s not such thing as speed.

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gargar070402

6 years ago

And I'm guessing yous think you are smarter than me since i didn't gone to no college

Says OP in a different comment.

This is very ironically hilarious though, wow.

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WhereWeDroppinLads

6 years ago

Bull to the shit

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chemicalcat59

6 years ago

"Math is about speed"

This is like saying "knee surgery is about speed, so why can't I use a knife instead of a scalpel?"

Math is NOT about speed. Math is 100% about accuracy; if anything, it's better to take your time.

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flamingicicles

6 years ago

I'm slow af at math, wish taking my time was an option in school

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ColdCoffee64

6 years ago

"But why can't I use a calculator, teacher?"

"YoU wOn'T aLwAyS hAvE aCcEsS tO a CaLcUlaToR"

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AfroGinga

6 years ago

You're an idiot.

Upvoted.

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chemicalcat59

6 years ago

Happy cake day!

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Mr-Nut-

6 years ago

Happy cake day!

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ferret_king9

6 years ago

Happy cake day!

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Please do yourself a favor and read OP's post history if you are looking for a laugh. Some solid gold in there. OP is basically an unsuccessful karma whore.

Water is no longer required to be dranken but we still do it a lot because of believing.

I (17M) and my SO (31F) disagree about when our first child should be born

My boyfriend (18M) got an impulse vasectomy without telling me (19F).

It is interesting that 100 years ago the smartest humans alive were businessmen but now they are YouTubers.

Literacy is probably the lowest it has ever been thanks to smartphones.

Even though frozen dinners have rendered cooking a completely useless skill, the restaurant industry is still alive due to longing for social interaction.

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MC_Cookies

6 years ago

It’s legitimately good shitposting imo

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Some of them are pretty abysmal. But yeah, I chuckled a couple times.

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funky555

6 years ago

"Iiteracy is probably the lowest its been, thanks to smartphones" lmfao

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KingGage

6 years ago

From his fourth post:

Oh okay one semester at Harvard makes you more able to be objective than me just because I dropped out of high school to start a music career, got scammed by Scuddy Max? That shit wasn't my fault he promised me a record! And now my wife leaves me. You think that's fair, harvard boy? You've got a lot to learn about this thing called life. I'm 31 and it's been a BUMPY road

I'm dead

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TheChipMaria

6 years ago

W-wait, so he's 17M- wait nope now he's 19F. Man, 2 ages, both genders AND an armchair scientist. very intellectually active too, since he denies smartphones (all though he has a very, very active reddit account lmao)

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turboshot49cents

6 years ago

a lot of people think that literacy is low thanks to smartphones. they're wrong of course, but it's a common opinion i wouldn't bat an eye at.

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Beautiful. Just beautiful.

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TheChipMaria

6 years ago

HE'S 31 NOW! Man, time flies in 4 months. Or regresses in his case.

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Soren11112

6 years ago

Is this GPT-2?

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A-maze-ing_Henry

6 years ago

I really agree with this one. Original!

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Tommy_Mudkip

6 years ago

Downvote.

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A-maze-ing_Henry

6 years ago

Thanks!

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[deleted]

6 years ago

my crayons always leave chunks of themselves all over the paper :(

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knuggles_da_empanada

6 years ago

Are you using crayola or the shitty off brand

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[deleted]

6 years ago

Crayola, but it still leaves pieces all over the paper :(

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