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/r/psychology

4 years ago

New study suggests people are much more likely to remember a fact if their life is threatened while learning it

March 2nd, 2022

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Comments:

GamerBhoy89

4 years ago

Can someone threaten to rape and kill my mother while I try to think of the lottery numbers?

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one9eight5

4 years ago

Moms everywhere be like "see! That's why I beat your ass for not doing the dishes. So you'd remember!"

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New-Teaching2964

4 years ago

My parents must have been early practitioners

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kae158

4 years ago

WHAT IS THE MOTHERFUCKING CAPITAL OF NEW HAMPSHIRE OR I SWEAR TO GOD

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LVLVMTG

4 years ago

That’s why I understand mathematics so well. Our teacher was a psycho

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[deleted]

4 years ago

huh, that's why Duolingo is so effective

1

MissFall31

4 years ago

Where’s the study?

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HaxRus

4 years ago

TIL Tyler Durdan was a psychologist

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plantbasednaynay

4 years ago

This is 100% true, trust me. In the past week I have become an expert on how to survive a nuclear holocaust.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

I too like the extreme sport of very negative reinforcement

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Technoblade46363

4 years ago

But The children in my basement never learn…

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AFishheknownotthough

4 years ago

So it IS ok for me to hit my kids when teaching them lessons. In fact the harder, the better they’ll remember, is what you’re saying.

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WW_III_ANGRY

4 years ago

This is why I know so much about politics

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naptiem

4 years ago

ONLY if you want long-term PTSD from learning!

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aparkercoffee

4 years ago

r/nottheonion

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RosefaceK

4 years ago

Then why is the tree sentinel still kicking my ass every single time?

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lockedoutofmymainrdt

4 years ago

Teacher: (cocks gun and slams it on table) "Sup bitches, today we're learning math."

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Them trans kids in Texas are going to be geniuses.

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Pixi829

4 years ago

And you need a study to know that?

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Grayham123

4 years ago

American education system is taking notes

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BeeferSutherland117

4 years ago

Can attest. Sending a call for fire while getting shot at branded it into the forefront of my brain forever

1

nklights

4 years ago

And just like that, my teaching technique changed.

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Flufflebuns

4 years ago

Someone owes milgram an apology.

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HighlyUninterested

4 years ago

So that’s why the news is always fear mongering

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AddictiveTV

4 years ago

The Winchester effect

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Dramatic_Remote_8818

4 years ago

Anyone willing to hold a knife against my throat in class? 😙

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thekingdtom

4 years ago

Give teachers guns

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MountainHigh31

4 years ago

Is the staff at PsychToday doing alright?

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[deleted]

4 years ago

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TAU_equals_2PI

4 years ago

Article disappeared. Link is giving a 404.

Looks like they killed the article.

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WatchingUShlick

4 years ago

Or the person(s) running the study carried out their threat...

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TAU_equals_2PI

4 years ago

r/ThatWasTheJoke

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arzeth

4 years ago

Not found in Google Search. Not found in their search https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/archive?search=threatened+learning+&section=1 . Also, judging by the way URLs are actually looking

/{language}/{studies,news,blog,articles}/{section}/{yearMonth}/{titleInEnglish}

or

/{language}/{basics,contributors}/{title,fullname}

, it seems that this "New study suggests people are much more likely to remember a fact if their life is threatened while learning it" has never been on this website.

Compare the above two URL templates to the URL provided by the OP:

/news/studies/0940329390342

Therefore, it seems this Reddit post is published by a karmafapper.

Also, why is it psychologytoday.org in the link, but when I go to this .org, it is redirected to .com.

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DweEbLez0

4 years ago

But if you don’t read it, then you will forget that you didn’t read it.

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jamaccity

4 years ago

It's not like your depends on it. Right?

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DweEbLez0

4 years ago

Well how do you know if your life depends on it if you didn’t read it and your life depended on reading it so you can remember your life depended on it?

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squirrels33

4 years ago

Sharks. It was definitely sharks.

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Worldly_Team_7441

4 years ago

So that's why there have been so many school shootings? /blatant sarcasm

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Lol. Flash cards and hand gun waiving.

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ywBBxNqW

4 years ago

Is anybody doing all right?

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cuchumino

4 years ago

Lol right? Evolution!!!

Fangs on cats hurt when they bite.... Beep Boop....Commit to memory

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Grouchy_Ad4351

4 years ago

Really..knife hurts...I learned that

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kynik01

4 years ago

😂

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jazzysunbear

4 years ago

LOL

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fllr

4 years ago

X+10=10. What is the value of X?!

hits person on head, loads gun

WHAT IS THE VALUE OF X?!?

…great study group…

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adric10

4 years ago

Psychology Today is less of an edited expert magazine as it is a forum for anyone to write basically anything. Not much different than Medium as far as I can tell.

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WhiteningMcClean

4 years ago

Skip the tutor, hire a hitman

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A1Dilettante

4 years ago

"Take me out at 11:59pm if I fail my Algebra exam"

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CmdrRyser01

4 years ago

Gun to head : "WE CAN USE PASCALS TRIANGLE TO EXPAND BINOMIALS MORE QUICKLY!!!""

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EggShellWeasel

4 years ago

HS junior sobbing noises

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ShotNeighborhood6913

4 years ago

Why did the polynomial tree fall down?

because it had no real roots

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CmdrRyser01

4 years ago

God, damn you....I'm using this.

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mixeslifeupwithmovie

4 years ago

Don't forget the power of the unit circle!

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FeatheredFledgling

4 years ago

Alternatively just use the formula

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OrganizerMowgli

4 years ago

I'm gonna kill myself mitochondria powerhouse of the cell

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[deleted]

4 years ago

How is this any different than flash bulb memory studies?

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JacerEx

4 years ago

I came here to say the same thing.

Like, it's been a long time since I took intro to psych but I really remember the flashbulb memory study and how scary and traumatic events create really vivid memories.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Ah yes. I remember when my fifth grade math teacher would hold us at gunpoint as we learned our times tables. Always grateful for her ♥️

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notbeleivable

4 years ago

I once sunk a sailboat and can tell you I will never sink one in the same manner again

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[deleted]

4 years ago

yea, sinking in the same way gets old, find new inventive ways to sink your sailboats

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InconvenientHummus

4 years ago

As the old saying goes: You never sink a sailboat the same way twice.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

[deleted]

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ThatCharmsChick

4 years ago

Me too. All in the bath. Couldn't sail for shit when I was 3.

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ONOMATOPOElA

4 years ago

Being 3’ it must’ve been hard reaching some of the ropes

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Enraged-gypsie

4 years ago

You are without a doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of!

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Telemere125

4 years ago

Ah, but you have heard of him!

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notbeleivable

4 years ago

Experience is to be had , Lad!

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A_spiny_meercat

4 years ago

To be fair, I majored in ass piracy, this isn't my area

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tebabeba

4 years ago

"in the same manner" be doing a lot of work eh

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PM_ME_A_FUTURE

4 years ago

As someone who graduated the army linguist school and was earnestly told to kill myself by my head teacher, can confirm!

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itslike_reallygood

4 years ago

Korean or Russian school house?

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PM_ME_A_FUTURE

4 years ago

First class of Arabic dialects. Didn't even have text books and 4 out of 23 of us graduated...

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itslike_reallygood

4 years ago

Yikes.

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PM_ME_A_FUTURE

4 years ago

Haha, most of us would get together to rewatch Office Space after every single test. Dark times.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Did an Arabic dialects class at my university and the professor showed up with a fresh hatred for her students each and every day haha. We had multiple people have public panic attacks in class.

You weren't taught by a lady from Tunisia, were you?

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PM_ME_A_FUTURE

4 years ago

Had teachers from Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, and Egypt

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[deleted]

4 years ago

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bamboo_fanatic

4 years ago

He doesn’t need to keep it up, he remembers it all because his life was threatened while learning it.

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xitzengyigglz

4 years ago

Yeah the pressure at DLI was insane. Unfortunately I had friends both try and succeed with that.

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babokki

4 years ago

Graduated from DLI in Farsi and when i saw this post I thought the exact same thing. Glad I'm not the only one lol

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Warshok

4 years ago

LOL DLI.

During Vietnam, they used to keep a picture by the door of the classroom with a photo of a troopship with big block lettering over it:

YOU FAIL YOU SAIL

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Pythagoras_101

4 years ago

Idk about earnestly. It's just how we are told to handle everyone.

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TK7_Gaming

4 years ago

I’m studying for my next exam over a volcano

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DefiantBunny

4 years ago

I was just thinking something similar. We can take turns threatening to push each other in if you don't pass the exam.

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Potato-with-guns

4 years ago

You can just use an American school

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Phimosis_Joan

4 years ago

So maybe they shouldn't stop classes when theres a school shooter running around

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Important-Taro8265

4 years ago

Don't suggest this, who knows what lows the schooling system will sink to to get more kids to pass tests...

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frostb1te22

4 years ago

“Only people with a C grade or higher will be allowed in a classroom during a shooting. If your grade is lower you will be tasked with disarming the shooter(s).” /s

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Cognitive_Spoon

4 years ago

While reviewing comma rules

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Varron

4 years ago

If you get a B or higher, please come to the front and get your complimentary bullet proof vests and helmets, now with Fortnite patterns!!

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fordfan919

4 years ago

All the A/B students flossing on there underperforming classmates.

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joesbagofdonuts

4 years ago

God knows the gene pool needs all the help it can get.

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cinderparty

4 years ago

Our district kinda just forgot standardized tests exists when they had to cancel them in 2020. I’m hoping, for the teachers sakes, that they never remember.

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nmesunimportnt

4 years ago

Don’t encourage the ammosexuals who want to arm schoolteachers: “Joshua! Who won the battle of Bull Run! Answer now or take a bullet to the face!”

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SeattleBattles

4 years ago

We need to go even further. Many schools can't even afford a school stabber, much less a school shooter.

The government needs to be providing them to all schools.

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MomJeans-

4 years ago

America had it right all along!

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AMC_Tendies42069

4 years ago

I’ll fucking kill you if you don’t remember to put the toilet seat down. Next time I sit and fall in the bowl I’m gonna water board you in the shower and cut you, cut you real bad.

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ThatCharmsChick

4 years ago

I tried this on my (now ex) husband but my therapist told me these kind of things are frowned upon and likely illegal. Smh.

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AMC_Tendies42069

4 years ago

Did you call him a little bitch while waterboarding him? It’s important to drown him and then administer cpr and bring him back to life a couple of times to show him the fear of God. Fucking put the seat down motherfucker

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ThatCharmsChick

4 years ago

No, I threatened to. That was my mistake. Now he knows it was premeditated.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Psht people are so sensitive these days!

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Fit_Cherry7133

4 years ago

Bleed you out slow, in the dark, real quiet, leave you here to rot CIA man.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

I don't got time to bleed.

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JaqnTheBox

4 years ago

“Ima cut you up so bad you gonna wish I no cut you up so bad!”

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BrutallyPretentious

4 years ago

Those are some bad roaches. I blame the schools.

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Quantum-taco

4 years ago

Beat me to it!

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Getfuckedbytomatoes

4 years ago

Why do people even pull the bowl up anyway

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Chooseslamenames

4 years ago

I’ll fucking kill you next time you sit down without checking what you’re sitting on…

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Mfed23

4 years ago

Who wants to teach me about numerical analysis while holding me at gunpoint. It will help prepare me for my tests in a week.

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rnybombs

4 years ago

Does anyone want to meet me at the library with a gun

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Zelanore

4 years ago

[Chainsaw and hockey mask] "HEY KIDS WANT TO LEARN SOME MATH??"

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_Stormchaser

4 years ago

teacher walks is with gun

“The Pythagorean Theorem is a^2 + b^2 +c^2”

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Crafty-Cauliflower-6

4 years ago

Ill fucking murder you if you dont forget the number 3 by next thursday.

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_Stormchaser

4 years ago

teacher walks is with gun

“The Pythagorean Theorem is a^2 + b^2 = c^2”

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Pommepotatoman

4 years ago

Time to change up the school system 🤡

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[deleted]

4 years ago

I've heard the less extreme version of this before somewhere.. If you're under duress you might learn quicker.

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StevieWonderUberRide

4 years ago

I like this. It’s more about urgency than mortality.

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NotTheTrueKing

4 years ago

To be fair, mortality is a pretty urgent concern

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DairyKing91

4 years ago

Most of my career I've been put into positions with little or no training, and I do think the sink or swim stress helped me learn faster.

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SleepyBear3366911

4 years ago

Agreed. I now work now training tech support for a major auto company. Started out as an agent myself - whenever I had a call and didn’t know what to do and had to learn to assist the member, I swear that anxiety and stress of finding it and resolving the issue made it concrete in my mind where I didn’t forget it.

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DairyKing91

4 years ago

I know what you mean. It sucks and it's stressful and it has helped me to develop myself professionally immensely all at once.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

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Strongest_Feet

4 years ago

I wonder if this also factors into learning differences between younger and older people. Teens can experience extreme duress over a test and treat it as a life-ending event, whereas an adult is less likely to feel that way.

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colfaxmingo

4 years ago

I forgot where I heard this, my life wasn’t being threatened at the time.

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concrete_kiss

4 years ago

So have someone hold a gun to my head while I watch physics lectures, got it.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

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drjenavieve

4 years ago

I mean have they repeated this? I imagine it loses its power the more times you threaten someone’s life.

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KennyFulgencio

4 years ago

Good point, if it was a person threatening you, you might start to doubt them; a countermeasure would be to make it rely on a mechanism rather than a person, which will kill you if you don't learn something. Like a Saw type trap which automatically shoots you unless you score perfectly on a quiz after half an hour (which you can divide into study time and quiz-taking time as you wish).

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BoardGameBologna

4 years ago

Hmmm...yeah, we're gonna need some people to actually kill to make those threats seem legitimate.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

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novalunaa

4 years ago

Spicy memories acquired.

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_Steve_French_

4 years ago

That was my Dads theory at least growing up.

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Born_Salamander_5751

4 years ago

Are you from my dad's other family?

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fffffffox

4 years ago

My job's prefered method of training. Something along the lines of The Hunger Games and Survivor.

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Murderface__

4 years ago

As a medical student, I can confirm this.

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intellectualballer

4 years ago

i can’t see the article but wasn’t this already indirectly known? like arousal has already been shown to increase retention of important information and i would assume arousal is increased in life-threatening situations (not sure if it’s been shown tho)

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iriedashur

4 years ago

I know you mean "arousal" as in "awareness/alertness," but I can't help but think "if you want a PhD, you gotta be horny for danger"

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Anomalous-Entity

4 years ago

Education by Snu Snu!

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mrmiyagijr

4 years ago

The scientific term you are looking for is "Fear Boner".

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MRguitarguy

4 years ago

This is kind of the plot of Slumdog Millionaire

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bad-etude

4 years ago

no i think there’s a difference between remembering and having flashbacks

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jungle_toad

4 years ago

This knowledge could get you killed.

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bamboo_fanatic

4 years ago

But not having this knowledge will get you killed!

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Sugarman4

4 years ago

Is this why they refer to prison as "going to school"?

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Dr-Chris-C

4 years ago

How did this get through ethics review??

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Saleibriel

4 years ago

high-school biology teachers holding their classes at gunpoint

Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

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FlourChild1026

4 years ago

Maybe this is why my dad used his belt when "helping" me with math homework when I was 8.

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IZY2091

4 years ago

"Not Found 404.0"

Is it just me?

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MB_Derpington

4 years ago

No and still not available. There's a surprising / unsurprising amount of takes and comments about an article that has not been readable for several hours.

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finalremix

4 years ago

Getting that, too...

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HighExplosiveLight

4 years ago

Yeah, I can only find two instances of this online, both reddit threads, both broken links

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arzeth

4 years ago

Not found in Google Search. Not found in their search https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/archive?search=threatened+learning+&section=1 . Also, judging by the way URLs are actually looking

/{language}/{studies,news,blog,articles}/{section}/{yearMonth}/{titleInEnglish}

or

/{language}/{basics,contributors}/{title,fullname}

, it seems that this "New study suggests people are much more likely to remember a fact if their life is threatened while learning it" has never been on this website.

Compare the above two URL templates to the URL provided by the OP:

/news/studies/0940329390342

Therefore, it seems this Reddit post is published by a karmafapper.

Also, why is it psychologytoday.org in the link, but when I go to this .org, it is redirected to .com.

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YadsewnDe

4 years ago

Don't let this info fall into the hands of my teachers

My parent been knew it seems lol

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claramb01

4 years ago

I think it has to do with the amygdala helping in the consolidation of memories, so if they threaten your life —> your amygdala gets activated —> better memory consolidation —> better at remembering the fact

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intellectualballer

4 years ago

YES.

id just add a step after amygdala gets activated: arousal levels increase.

(increasing arousal has been shown to increase retention of important info) so anyway you can increase your arousal but still direct your attention should lead to increased retention

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GabrielXCrescendo

4 years ago

And that's why you always leave a note.

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AllEndsAreAnds

4 years ago

Time to skydive with a physics textbook and make some core memories.

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shay-doe

4 years ago

Ha trauma has made me smart.

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twofacetoo

4 years ago

…yeah that’s called fucking TRAUMA

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CoronaryAssistance

4 years ago

This is the logic behind crippling kids with debt to go to college. They learn better knowing their life is at stake

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Rebeccaissoawesome

4 years ago

Is that why China excels so well? Those teachers beat the kids.

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SanilllG

4 years ago

Say no more! Teaching at gun point approved!

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Stuffin_Muffins2

4 years ago

Schools taking notes ✍️

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FreddyFighter1

4 years ago

Teacher: pulls out gun and points at students Teacher: Y’ALL READY TO LEARN SOME FUCKING CALCULUS,YOU BETTER OR YOU’LL DIE

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loud_lark13

4 years ago

This is how I remember that Marsellus Wallace does not, in fact, look like a bitch.

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ennuiacres

4 years ago

That’s how my Dad taught me Maths

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Points Gun at Someone

“Fun Fact…”

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smp006

4 years ago

Well... I'm very eager to read the methods on this one...

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Ah. The theory behind graduate school.

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eliza_frodo

4 years ago

Omg, yes. I was running low on my meds and I felt like I could die any moment. The best study sesh in years. Hands down.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

This generation of American kids are going to be so fuckin smart.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Is this just a way for America to convince people that armed teachers in the classrooms is a good thing?

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Faxicity

4 years ago

So if I went to an American school I would be far better off right?

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geminicrickett1

4 years ago

New pedagogical tactic.

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DarthDregan

4 years ago

That might have helped with my multiplication tables.

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DennisTheBald

4 years ago

Arm teachers? Empower them to rap knuckles?

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[deleted]

4 years ago

I have a theory that you get smarter closer to death

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Rezzone

4 years ago

Support school shooters! Whatever was being taught is gonna stick!

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thekenmatax

4 years ago

I'm 'bout to study at gunpoint from now on.

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sagarp

4 years ago

zealous imagine consist roof flag expansion elastic cable unite repeat

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mykidsmademebald

4 years ago

10+10 MOTHER FUCKER! TEN PLUS TEN!!!!

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[deleted]

4 years ago

This might bring an interesting new dimension to study sessions with friends.

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[deleted]

4 years ago

Military basic training proved this years ago.

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Klutzy-Midnight-9314

4 years ago

Remember this fact because your life depends on it. Now repeat it back

Me: ugghhh its right there on the tip of my tongue. dies while still searching my brain for said fact

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xtunamilk

4 years ago

Can't wait to see how this is implemented in the workplace.

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